February
16th, 2004 |
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11:22pm
a new breed of wolf
something i posted in feminist_rage
in regards to hothead's post here:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/feminist_rage/77132.html
ohmigod THANK you. i have been wanting to go on a rant lately about men who hang out in feminist communities and troll and no one does anything about it!
this post here, for one:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/feminist_rage/77132.html
really bothered my greatly. all these
people, i think most of them men, saying that maddox is their hero and that
he is funny.
it just confused me soooo much. if they think that way, then WHY are they
in a feminist community?
but then i think a lot of women don't say anything (including me) because
they don't want to see like they hate men so they would be seen as a "femmenazi".
i mean, we are just happy that men are even in a feminist community and participating
at ALL so it's like we are willing to put up with their shit.
these men make it seem sometimes like they care, they are crafty. but, in
fact, they don't care at ALL and in fact, i believe they are actually mysogynists.
WHY they are hanging out in a feminist community is beyond me. and this group
of men has really made me feel like not going in there anymore.
i know there are also a lot of women who hang out there, too, who i would say are equally mysogynistic. and that bugs me just as much, if not a billion times more. and that is a whole other rant i could go on for hours and hours. like the feminists who say they are prolife. grrr.
and i have to say another thing that
is a touchy subject for many, ..and that is when women bring up and issue
and then a man comes in and goes "ya, but what about the MEN?" like
an issue would be talking about women getting raped and then a man will say
"ya, but men get raped, too!" and not to take anything AWAY from
that because a man getting raped IS just as equally monstrous and also deserves
to be discussed just as much...
BUT the subject was WOMEN getting raped and when someone brings the man equation
into a subject like that, for me, especially in a feminist community, i think
it really deflates and diminishes the point that many many women are getting
raped every second here to the point that it IS a war on women. and even tho
there are men who get raped and those men are equally as damaged, i would
say that there is not a war on men. i'm not saying that the men who got raped
are having any less of pain, i am saying that there is NOT a war on men. just
as it would deflate the point of the suffering of the african americans and
what they went through with slavery if a white person kept bursting into the
conversation and say "ya, well, there were white people who were slaves,
too! what about the white people?".
i hope everyone can see the point i am trying to make.
and i will also say, from only my
experience and the experience of some my friends, that it seems it is almost
always the guy who seems the most "feminine" and "sensitive"
etc etc that is actually the most sly and seething mysogynist underneath and
that is so tragic.
i'm not saying this is the case for ALL men. there are DEFINITELY a lot of
good men out there (like my boyfriend for example). and i'm not saying that
men shouldn't be sensitive. i love sensitive men and wish there were more.
but what i am saying is there seems to be a NEW breed of wolf out there among
men who likes to say he is a feminist (like that is some sort of cool badge
for him to wear so he can slip pass the bouncers then quietly sabotage the
club), and then he kind of gets off on pushing women's buttons but we can't
say anything bad about him because he's a FEMINIST and we don't want to seem
like we are not treating men equal as they are not treating us equally. and
we want to make sure that he has an equal voice in our conversations, etc.
etc. so we almost bend over backwards for them and look the other way a bit
too much when he very passively aggressively throwing a wrench into our discussions
and into our communities and taking the air out of our tires. and it IS very
sly! and i'm fucking sick of it!
and it makes me sad now that when
a man hangs out in a feminist community i am ten times more wary of him than
the normal asshole type guy. because at least with the asshole you can see
him coming a mile away and step aside and there is no hidden agenda to try
to figure out.
but these new "feminist men in sheep's clothing" are cunning and
we let them in because we want to much to believe that there are men out there
who really ARE feminists (and i know there are!) because we THIRST (i know
i do) for men to join us and "get it".
and then they just slyly punch holes in our arguments, and sidetrack us off
the points we wre trying to make and post things that they know will get us
riled not because they actually want to have a discussion about how we can
eradicate the hate, but just to see us squirm and sap our strength because
inside they are mysogynists and so they get off on doing that.
and maybe i am going to get blasted
now and called a femmenazi or whatever. but i don't care. i know what i see
and i'm going to call it.
and it needs to be said.
i just feel badly that there are men that are making the true men who are true feminists have an even harder time now gaining the trust of some women, like me. i think it's very sad. and it pisses me off beyond words
9:44pm
put mouse over pic for 2nd pic:
the pigalog pigalo!
6:23pm
i put a bunch of hats up for sale:
http://www.anacam.com/hats/forsale/forsale.html
money will go to pay back my dad ($450) and pay a previous medical bill ($300) that i need to pay so i can see my doctor again so i can get more migraine medication.
2:44pm
thank you SO much for all your heartfelt
replies! thank you for taking the time to do that!
it means so much to me! thank you!
i am pretty typed out now about that since that took so much energy out of
me to type it.
i think i was typing it for about 6 hours and it was like my heart turning
into words.
i must now recharge my heart batteries.